Oven fried KFC, is it the real spices? You be the judge. This it the alleged original KFC spices found in a family album by a nephew of the Colonel himself.
The original recipe is a closely guarded secret that is in a vault at the company’s headquarters. Handwritten by the Colonel himself it is said. This story is about the nephew of the Colonel, Joe “H.D.” Lexington and a family album he inherited.
In the album is his aunt’s will, and on the back of the will is a handwritten note titled “11 spices”. He believes it is real, and he mixed tons of this at his uncle’s restaurant as a child. I tend to believe it. Especially after my trial cooking.
Check out the original article at the Tribune. A very interesting read and has a picture of the note. But also check out their test cooking of the recipe.
Since published nine days ago, lots of speculation has been floating around the internet. Is it real or isn’t it? Finally, yesterday the company said no but would they say yes? Or is it just “almost right” maybe the measurement issues are why it is not correct.
So let’s get to it. This is the recipe (the picture of the original is at the Tribune link).
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11 spices — Mix with 2 cups white fl
2/3 Ts salt
1/2 Ts thyme
1/2 Ts basil
1/3 Ts oregano
1 Ts celery salt
1 Ts black pepper
1 Ts dried mustard
4 Ts paprika
2 Ts garlic salt
1 Ts ground ginger
3 Ts white pepper
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I’m sure you see a problem right away. What the heck is “Ts”? I assumed teaspoon since tablespoons would be a ton of spices in ratio to the flour. Almost one cup of spice to 2 cups of flour. The Tribune tried both, and they conclude tablespoons. I tried both also. I believe tablespoons but my wife somewhat preferred the much lighter spiced teaspoon version.
My Rating:
I like the higher spice version. My wife loved both but somewhat preferred the lower spiced version. But both offered a lot of KFC taste.
The higher spice version brings back visions of my childhood when KFC was a very special treat. So if not the real recipe, then very close.
Super moist with the milk marinade. Now the rating is for the spices only. The technique is more of a high 3 or low 4 since the buttermilk I believed prevented the coating from sticking well. I’ll be using plain milk and no egg like my original oven recipe uses.
Recipe notes on this KFC like chicken
I went with an oven fried version since that is what I will do in the future. I’m not a stovetop frying person. So I modified one of my favorite recipes Crispy Oven Fried Chicken with Gravy.
Since I wanted to test the taste of the spice mix, I mirrored the Tribune buttermilk/egg marinade. In the future, I will just use milk. I don’t think the egg did anything for my oven fried version. My other recipe is great with just milk and not buttermilk, so I don’t need to make a special trip to the store for the buttermilk.
Also, I used oil instead of butter in the pan to avoid changing the taste. Lastly, the Tribune felt a sprinkle of MSG would make the chicken taste identical to current KFC which does have MSG. I wanted the original taste… no MSG for me. At least not today.
One final concession to me and future cookings, I used skinless boneless chicken breasts. It is just what I use.
The nephew felt the major “secret ingredient” was the white pepper. I think he is right.
The restaurant uses a deep fryer/pressure cooker. You can not. So even if the spices are correct, the texture will be a bit different.
Final note, it is easier and probably cheaper to just go the restaurant. But this is interesting.
Start with trimming two skinless boneless chicken breasts.
Mix 2 cups buttermilk with one egg. Add the chicken and allow to marinade in the refrigerator for 30-60 minutes.
Preheat oven to 375 convection or 400 conventional. Mix the 11 spices with the flour.
Prepare an oven safe pan with 1 tablespoon vegetable oil. Remove chicken breast one at a time allowing excessive marinade to drain off. Dip in the spice/flour mix. Cover completely, shake to remove excess and place in pan.
Give any of the flour mixture that looks dry a light spray of PAM. Allow to set for 20-30 minutes. This will help the coating to stick.
Bake until internal temp of 165, about 35-40 minutes. Cooking time will vary some due to oven variations, the size and thickness of the chicken and the pan used.
If you want gravy, remove chicken from pan. Mix 1 cup of chicken broth with 4 tablespoons flour either by whisking or in a shaker. Over medium-high heat, add 1 more cup of chicken broth to the pan and bring to a boil. Slowly add the flour mixture while whisking continuously until thickened and then a few more minutes. If some of the breading come off the chicken, leave it in the gravy as flavor bombs.
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Oven Fried Chicken - Is it KFC?
Ingredients
- 2 skinless boneless chicken breasts
Marinade
- 2 cups buttermilk
- 1 egg
- 1 tablespoon vegetable oil
Coating - makes way more then you need for 2 so save extra for next time.
- 2 cups AP flour
- 2/3 tablespoons salt
- 1/2 tablespoons thyme
- 1/2 tablespoons basil
- 1/3 tablespoon oregano
- 1 tablespoons celery salt
- 1 tablespoons black pepper
- 1 tablespoons dried mustard
- 4 tablespoons paprika
- 2 tablespoons garlic salt
- 1 tablespoon ground ginger
- 3 tablespoons white pepper
Gravy - optional
- 2 cups chicken broth
- 4 tablespoons flour
Instructions
- Start with trimming two skinless boneless chicken breasts. Mix 2 cups buttermilk with one egg. Add the chicken and allow to marinade in the refrigerator for 30-60 minutes.
- Preheat oven to 375 convection or 400 conventional. Mix the 11 spices with the flour.
- Prepare an oven safe pan with 1 tablespoon vegetable oil. Remove chicken breast one at a time allowing excessive marinade to drain off. Dip in the spice/flour mix. Cover completely, shake to remove excess and place in pan.
- Give any of the flour mixture that looks dry a light spray of PAM. Allow to set for 20-30 minutes. This will help the coating to stick.
- Bake until internal temp of 165, about 35-40 minutes. Cooking time will vary some due to oven variations, the size and thickness of the chicken and the pan used.
- If you want gravy, remove chicken from pan. Mix 1 cup of chicken broth with 4 tablespoons flour either by whisking or in a shaker. Over medium-high heat, add 1 more cup of chicken broth to the pan and bring to a boil. Slowly add the flour mixture while whisking continuously until thickened and then a few more minutes. If some of the breading come off the chicken, leave it in the gravy as flavor bombs.
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Nutrition is for one serving. Number of servings is stated above and is my estimate of normal serving size for this recipe.
All nutritional information are estimates and may vary from your actual results. This is home cooking, and there are many variables. To taste ingredients such as salt will be my estimate of the average used.
If you like this recipe or find it useful, the pleasure of a nice 4 or 5 rating would be greatly appreciated.
Judie
October 2, 2018 at 2:00 pmPS I didn’t bother with egg. Doesn’t need it. Milk soak is sufficient.
Judie
October 2, 2018 at 1:57 pmThis recipe is fantastic. I’ve made a big batch (still only half what’s above) and stored in an airtight container. Sufficient for probably 3 to 4 servings for 3 of us. The only change I made was to make it half flour and half panko breadcrumbs for added crunch. And half cayenne/half paprika as we like our food hot. I’ve 5ried several and this is the winner with my boys. It is incredibly tender and moist with a smashing flavour. Thank you – bookmarked for the future.
Rhonda Dickens
August 12, 2018 at 8:09 pmI just have a question about the “white pepper “. Is there a difference in taste with “black pepper”? Or is it just for color? I know, i could go buy it and try it myself, but what fun would that be?
I am going to try this with the egg yolk. Also didn’t know MSG was in KFC!. Interesting.
DrDan
August 12, 2018 at 8:17 pmYep, definitely a different taste and according to the nephew, it is “the secret ingredient”. A small bottle at the local supermarket is fairly expensive. It is much cheaper (and better) at Penzey Spices. All spices are better there. Worth the drive if you are close to one.
Dan
Judie
October 2, 2018 at 1:59 pmWhite pepper is entirely different. Add both as per the recipe. Spot on!
Rick
February 23, 2018 at 4:32 pmUse only the yolk not the white part of the egg. The whites of the egg cause the breading to not stick. I use to make my own fried chicken in my restaurant years ago, trial and error is how I learned that. At home I can fry the chicken for 1 1/2 – 2 minutes to make a crispy brown skin then finish cooking in oven. Not falling off the bone moist like KFC but very good technique for any recipe.
T is tablespoon and t is teaspoon learned that in my mother’s kitchen as a child, I thought everyone knew that. Hope this helps all you chicken lovers. Nice article Dan, I’ve seen this recipe before and haven’t tried it. I may give this recipe a try just for the fun of it.
DrDan
February 23, 2018 at 5:05 pmHi Rick,
I will try the yolk thing soon. I get fairly good sticking with just milk and a few minutes of wait but if that works, it would fix one of my issues.
I always used T for tablespoons and t for teaspoon. I used that the first few years of this blog but it confused everybody. I have re-edited most of those recipes and still have it my FAQs.
It is the “Ts” instead of T in the handwritten recipe combined with a large amount of spice vs flour that makes people question it. I believe tablespoons is correct.
My main concession to this recipe is that I frequent use white pepper with my oven fried chicken recipe. Getting that many spices out for a dinner just seems too much. But you have got to try it.
Thanks for the note.
Dan
Robin
September 20, 2017 at 3:24 amI just made this tonight and it was delicious! I broke down a chicken into 10 pieces and after cooking they had quite a KFC flavour but were much healthier. I used half/half mixture of yogurt and milk, and swapped the flour for rice flour as I read somewhere it helps with the crispiness. The pieces were crispy in parts but not in others and the coating stayed on pretty well. I’ll definitely make this again – thanks!
DrDan
September 20, 2017 at 9:32 pmHi Robin,
I never heard that about rice flour. I may try that sometime. The variable cooking is probably more of a function of the oven. Try rotating the tray halfway through.
Thanks for the note.
Dan
DrDan
September 10, 2016 at 7:39 pmHi Jackie,
I did several cookings including allowing it to set up for 20 minutes. No effect. I think the buttermilk works well when deep-frying but in the oven, it doesn’t denature fast enough to hold on well. I really wanted to keep the buttermilk, but the plain milk bath in my other recipe works very nicely, so I’m not going to keep trying. Plain milk and KFC seasoning for me. BTW, the gravy is great.
Yep T was always tablespoons (my mother taught home-ec in the 50’s and 60’s), but the “s” is the confusion. But after taste-testing, it is definitely tablespoons in this case.,
I think I will just mix the spices and store them, so I don’t have to get out “eleven spices” every time.
Thanks for the note. Let me know if you have any requests… I’m running out of ideas
Dan
Jackie Martin
September 10, 2016 at 6:42 pmHave you tried letting the first dipping and breading set up for half an hour or so and then do it again so you can have the breading like KFC? ‘Further, when I took home-ec in the 60’s, a capitol T meant Tablespoon while a little t meant a teaspoon. I follow that ruling though I am now in my 70’s. Keep those recipes coming as I live alone and use them a lot.
C Glanville
August 30, 2016 at 2:30 pmAs noted by a previous commenter, I am pretty sure a capitalized T means tablespoon. I have no idea if this would actually be relevant or not, but all my Gramm’s recipes…a capital T symbolized a tablespoon, and a lowercase t symbolized a teaspoon. She was born around the same time as the original Colonel, so it jives with me they would learn similar shorthand for recipes.
Leslie
August 29, 2016 at 11:27 pmI loved this recipe, (4 stars) wanted to try the original but I have horrible frying skills, liked your oven method. However my topping did not stay on as pictured, followed your recipe exactly and used a cast iron skillet, any suggestions or tips ? Thank you, Leslie
DrDan
August 30, 2016 at 11:57 amI think it is the buttermilk. My rating is more on the flavor. I’m using plain milk in the future and no egg.
Dan
Pat
August 29, 2016 at 12:18 pmThanks for trying this KFC recipe and reporting on it. We saw it in the news and were wondering about it. We are excited to try your oven fried version!
DrDan
August 29, 2016 at 9:06 pmI just could not resist trying it. My white pepper was old, so I had to buy at the local store… very expensive for a small amount. I’m stopping at Penzeys next week for a big bag. I think I will mix the spices then seal for later. Just too many ingredients to keep mixing them.
The gravy was just great with all that spice.
Thanks for the note
Dan
debra fine
August 28, 2016 at 5:45 pmA capital “T” always means tablespoon! As for buttermilk, biscuits, pancakes salad dressings, so many uses. You can also freeze it. And even pour it over the moss in the yard, to keep it healthy!
DrDan
August 29, 2016 at 8:58 pmWhen I started the blog I used T for tablespoons and was shocked that nobody know that. The confusion here is the Ts. Even black pepper has 1Ts which is plural if it is tablespoons… just adds some confusion the mix.
I never seem to use it up but there is a dried buttermilk I like to keep on hand for small cookings.
Thanks the note
Dan
Kate Fuller
August 28, 2016 at 3:57 pmI don’t know if it is true or not, but I was always told that the yolk part of the egg and buttermilk are used to tenderize chicken. I will be trying this recipe soon! Thanks for sharing it.
DrDan
August 29, 2016 at 8:46 pmButtermilk definitely does tenderize. No sure about the egg yoke. I thought the egg might be there to help the coating stick. Here the coating did come off some. Much more than my original recipe with plain milk.
Thanks for the note
Dan